Question:
Do Canadians want a prison system more like Norway's or USA's?
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Do Canadians want a prison system more like Norway's or USA's?
Six answers:
Anonymous
2011-07-28 14:13:59 UTC
In the direction the government going, we're heading towards a US jail system that gets overloaded. But generally, Canadians would lean more towards a Norwegian prison system.
anonymous
2011-07-27 22:17:11 UTC
Like Shawn says, Canada`s crime rate has been going down and down, but sadly we have a moronic PM who favours building prisons left and right like his pals down south in the states.



Anything over the US style of justice please and thank you, throwing thousands of people into jail and having the highest percentage of your population locked up is not something I want my country to be known for.



Bottom line in Canada that man would ever see the light of day again and would never have the chance at parole.



In the US he would be either killed by lethal injection or electric chair as soon as possible.





I know Canada does not have the death penalty but I am in favour of it in certain cases, and this is an example, 98 people dead is a big toll.
?
2011-07-27 19:35:40 UTC
LIke most of the modern world, the Canadian justice system is based on the principle that offenders are capable rehabilitation and that corporal punishment is inherently wrong. I would like to think we're more like Western European countries with respect to our legal system than to the USA, but I'm not an expert...
?
2011-07-27 21:37:41 UTC
Crime in Canada has been steadily declining over the past 20 years.

To the point where it's at its lowest rate since the early 1970s. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/07/21/crime-rates.html



So I'd say we want neither and to instead continue doing things our way.

Because the best criminal justice system is one that crime reduction strategies precludes resorting to.
Randy
2011-07-27 19:13:31 UTC
Well Eric, for once you bring up an interesting question.



Yes, Norway's prison system is more "rehabilitative" then "punitive" like that of the US. There are advantages to both systems, just as there are disadvantages. Norway's system tends to actually work to rehabilitate prisoners. They realize that in many, if not most, cases a person is a product of their environment and as a result that product can be changed somewhat. Therapies including massage, counselling, vocational training, and other means are employed to both punish an individual while retraining them to adhere to societies standards of behavior. Yes it is more relaxed however they are still locked up and restricted in their movements and activities. As a result, when people come out of Norway's system, by in large, they are able to reintegrate back into society in a meaningful way. Their system also recognizes that some people are beyond rehabilitation and those persons are locked up longer if not indefinitely.



Under the American system they tend to prefer to lock em up and throw away the key for the duration of someone's sentence. As a result they do not receive any form of treatment or counselling for their issues and in many cases they come out worse then when they went in. Long periods of confinement may make the general citizen better about sending someone to prison but it tends to breed greater problems for the prisoners who will one day be released back into society worse off then when they went into prison. They learn new illegal skills, foster connections within the criminal environment and tend to become better, more bitter and more polished criminals. However, and this never ceases to amaze me about the American people, they feel better because "I guess we showed them" by putting someone into prison and not working on the issues that made them a criminal. Seems kinda counter productive to me.



Due to our proximity to the US people in Canada are tending to prefer the American model even though it has been proven to not work. We are finding more and more "super-Max" type prisons being built in Canada and more and more people seem to want to, in my opinion, take the easy way out and lock em up.



Personally, I'd rather put someone in prison for a period of time (as determined by the severity of their crime) and know that we are working to "fix" them so that one day they can return to society as productive members. Recognizing of course that some people are beyond that point of being "saved" or "fixed" and will need some form of dangerous offender label to keep them locked up. No matter how comfortable we may feel the prison system in Norway (and other countries) is it does tend to work for those societies and, in the end, these people are still locked up. Just imagine spending the rest of your life, locked in your home with no ability to come and go as you want and only half the comforts of home (no internet, basic cable, small area to move around in....) and I'm certain you would not view if favourably after a short time.



There is a good video that was put out in 2003 by the Telefilm Canada called "To Kill or To Cure" which looked at the prison system in the US and compared it to Japan and (I believe) Denmark as well as that of Canada to examine what system(s) worked and which didn't. Very interesting and regardless of the academic conclusions arrived at by the study there will still be the vast majority of Americans and Canadians who will say "I don't care about the study results....I still say lock them up".



I'd rather punish someone while working to return them to society eventually.
anonymous
2011-07-27 22:16:40 UTC
Randy and Shawn make good points. I must say that crime in the USA is so high and it makes me wonder why? Having said this in Norway they don't have that problem. Yes this young male admitted to carrying out this horrible attack and at max face 21 yrs (or in Norway's law longer-if authorities feel he will be a further threat to society after released). He will receive rehabilitation treatment while serving time and will have the proper care to help with his behavior, in hopes that another crime will not occur. On the other hand, I know several men in the USA that shared with me their experiences in US prisons and many have told me that the Prison Guards and other workers disrespect them, call them names and tell them Rehab won't work and insist "I'll see you soon when you get out" meaning: yes you are out of prison now but you'll be back soon. With that attitude it's no wonder why Prisoners in the US have been in and out of jail more than 5+ times. In Norway I'm sure the Guards/Workers treat ALL prisoners with respect.



Another issue many bring up is population size. The US has about 312 million, Canada has about 34 million and Norway has about 4.5 million people. However the USA still has more prisoners than cities that are compared to in Canada and Norway. My question would be: Do Americans want a prison system more like Norway's or Canada's?


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